Welcome back to The Stoop Sessions, where we have casual, down-to-earth conversations about ministry—straight from a Baltimore stoop. In each episode, Joel Kurz, Stephanie Greer, and a guest unpack topics around healthy church ministry in the inner city.

In this episode, we’re joined by James Choi, pastor of New Covenant Baptist Church in Rockville, MD, and a PhD candidate at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, focusing on Charles Spurgeon’s theology of conversion.

We dig into a critical issue facing churches today: ministry that’s become professionalized, leaving many congregations as passive spectators rather than active Gospel workers. James shares about his recent visit to the Metropolitan Tabernacle in London, offering a glimpse of Spurgeon’s legacy of a working church—a church where every member plays a part in the mission. Together we explore how pastors can equip their people not just to attend but to engage fully in the life-giving work of the local church.

Learn more about James' ministry at newcovbap.church.

In addition to their work with ONE HOPE, Joel serves as lead pastor at The Garden Church and where Stephanie also serves on staff. Visit thegardenbaltimore.com to learn more.

Learn more about ONE HOPE and how you can help build churches in the inner city: www.onehope.gives

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In scripture, elders are addressed as a plurality, not as a role to be served by a single individual. Joel and Eric, both pastors at The Garden Church, share insight into the importance of having both paid and lay (unpaid) elders serving the inner city church. What does it look like for an elder to have full-time secular work, but still hold the same authority as the senior Pastor? Listen in as we discuss various challenges and dangers from the lack of a plurality of elders, to unchecked authority and the weight of ministry. God’s grace remains necessary in equipping all elders.